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I was doing some garden cleanup and was disturbed to see a South American palm weevil on my Ravenea julietiae.   Fortunately I had a pair of clippers in hand and was able to quickly kill it.  While examining for any signs of bores I noticed the flwer spathe was beginning to open on its first spathe.

The coincidence of timing prompted me to wonder if it was only coincidence or if something else was at work in attracting the weevil to this palm.

I also have male and female Ravenea glauca, which will be flowering again this spring.  Despite being mature enough to have flowered for a few years, they have not been prey yet.  Leucadia CIDP have been hosting and victims of the SAPW for at least 3 years now, maybe longer. 

Is their information on what attracts the weevils to their prey, such as whether scent plays a role and / or sexual maturity of the palm?

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Tracy, well that’s depressing. I was hoping that they took the winter off from reproducing; guess I’m wrong. Last year they took out a couple of immature Pritchardia, so I don’t think it has much to do with sexual maturity. I did read an article somewhere, that you can take for what it’s worth, that stated that freshly cut leaves somehow attracted them. So this guy‘s recommendation was to do a lot of of your larger scale pruning prior to the spring growing season. Like I say, I took it with a bit of grain of salt, but hope springs eternal. Growing palms seemed like such a simple pleasure, prior to weevils and insurance companies. 

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Bret

 

Coastal canyon area of San Diego

 

"In the shadow of the Cross"

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For the rpw, which ravages palns in Europe, it is established knowledge, that male flowers of Phoenix spp attract the bug rather than the female ones. It is very common that after some years since the appearance of the rpw in an area, the only still surviving Phoenix specimens are in an overwhelming percentage female. On the other hand every time my female dactylifera is near in to ripening set dates, rpw pays a visit to it. I think in first case the decisive factor is called kairomone and in latter case sugar and fermentation in the fruit.

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55 minutes ago, quaman58 said:

Tracy, well that’s depressing. I was hoping that they took the winter off from reproducing; guess I’m wrong. Last year they took out a couple of immature Pritchardia, so I don’t think it has much to do with sexual maturity. I did read an article somewhere, that you can take for what it’s worth, that stated that freshly cut leaves somehow attracted them. So this guy‘s recommendation was to do a lot of of your larger scale pruning prior to the spring growing season. Like I say, I took it with a bit of grain of salt, but hope springs eternal. Growing palms seemed like such a simple pleasure, prior to weevils and insurance companies. 

I will take the pruning advice with a little more than a grain of salt Brett.

Now that neonicotinoid insecticide is banned in California,  does anyone have alternatives for treating palms preventivly?

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One anecdotal comment I heard from another palm grower is that if a palm has no fibers in the trunk area, there will be no palm weevils. Theoretically growers could choose to plant only palms that have no fibrous trunks or crowns. True or false? I would love to know what people have experienced. We've all seen the photos of the fibers used to make the nest, so maybe it's true? Or maybe it's a false assumption? And it won't help those who have mature palms with fibers. 😕

Kim Cyr

Between the beach and the bays, Point Loma, San Diego, California USA
and on a 300 year-old lava flow, Pahoa, Hawaii, 1/4 mile from the 2018 flow
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22 minutes ago, Kim said:

One anecdotal comment I heard from another palm grower is that if a palm has no fibers in the trunk area, there will be no palm weevils. Theoretically growers could choose to plant only palms that have no fibrous trunks or crowns. True or false? I would love to know what people have experienced. We've all seen the photos of the fibers used to make the nest, so maybe it's true? Or maybe it's a false assumption? And it won't help those who have mature palms with fibers. 😕

Do Pritchardia and Ravenea have fibers?🧐

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50 minutes ago, Kim said:

One anecdotal comment I heard from another palm grower is that if a palm has no fibers in the trunk area, there will be no palm weevils. Theoretically growers could choose to plant only palms that have no fibrous trunks or crowns. True or false? I would love to know what people have experienced. We've all seen the photos of the fibers used to make the nest, so maybe it's true? Or maybe it's a false assumption? And it won't help those who have mature palms with fibers. 😕

Both Pritchardia and Ravenea are high on the dietary list and yes both have fibrous trunks.  CIDP are numero uno dessert items for them and ironically none of these species is native to South America.   Butia, Syagrus and Washingtonia robusta would seem to meet your fibrous trunk criteria and overlap better with this weevils original habitat yet seem to be lower on their dietary preferences from what I have observed as they move into Southern California. 

Unfortunately,  I made my palm selections before the weevil was an issue here as so many others did.

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In my neighborhood I have witnessed two CIDPs with overhead clear trunk taken. Each one bordering my yard.

Middle of Winter I see them everyday flying around, usually late afternoon.

This is the "catch" from 12 days in 3 traps.

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On 2/18/2025 at 7:00 PM, TomJ said:

In my neighborhood I have witnessed two CIDPs with overhead clear trunk taken. Each one bordering my yard.

Middle of Winter I see them everyday flying around, usually late afternoon.

This is the "catch" from 12 days in 3 traps.

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Tom, please share your trap source.  I don't want to lose my Ravenea julietiae to these predators. 

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Here in SWFL I lost my oldest, largest Bismarckia to the FL palm weevil in 2018, 18 months after Hurricane Irma. Normally they attack compromised Sabals but they’ve developed an appetite for Bizzies. All evidence I’ve experienced, seen, studied and read about convinced me the weevils detect their victims by scent of damage, disease or other compromising conditions. Weevils are not active in winter here but come spring, dying Bizzies release adult weevils that seek out new prey. For years we cut up bars of Ivory Soap (soap, not detergent) then watered them into the crowns of our Bizzies to deter weevil attacks. The tactic worked and we lost no more palms to them. In 2022 Hurricane Ian uprooted 4 of our 6 Bizzies. We have not tried the Ivory Soap treatment since Ian but the two palms seem to be doing okay.

I won’t plant Bismarckias again. They cannot stand up to cat 4/5 hurricanes and do tremendous damage to landscapes and structures when they fall.

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Meg

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Cape Coral (It's Just Paradise)
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Zone 10A on the Isabelle Canal
Elevation: 15 feet

I'd like to be under the sea in an octopus' garden in the shade.

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On 2/21/2025 at 1:50 AM, Tracy said:

Tom, please share your trap source.  I don't want to lose my Ravenea julietiae to these predators. 

I would not use alone such traps, because they would act completely in the opposite way, thay you hope. They will attract all nearby population of this bug, which otherwise would disperse, and with that population density it is certain that some individuals will end up in your palms and not in the bucket! Wherever traps turned out successful mean of prevention, they were serving as parts of an extended such network.

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On 2/16/2025 at 1:58 PM, Kim said:

One anecdotal comment I heard from another palm grower is that if a palm has no fibers in the trunk area, there will be no palm weevils. Theoretically growers could choose to plant only palms that have no fibrous trunks or crowns. True or false? I would love to know what people have experienced. We've all seen the photos of the fibers used to make the nest, so maybe it's true? Or maybe it's a false assumption? And it won't help those who have mature palms with fibers. 😕

I have continued thinking about your comment regarding fibrous trunks, particularly when walking by my Vonitra crinita.  I haven't heard anyone ever identifying the Vonitra genus as a SAPW target.  I wonder if it is because they aren't widely planted or just not frequent targets.

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to me, red palm weevil,they devoured phoenix canariensis, washingtonia filifera and robusta, trachycarpus fortunei and latisectus, brahea armata and nitida

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