Too early to id these palm seedlings??

[Slifer00]

I sowed around 15 different type of palm seeds 40 days ago, wondering if anyone could potentially ID the species this early on :). I can't contain my excitement, haha! 

Most seeds are from z12a southern Tenerife in the canaries. I have everything from royal cuban palms to mexican blue fan palms. I'm guessing the seedlings are washingtonia or dactilyfera. Thoughts? These are the only 2 seedlings big enough so far

[Fusca]

5 hours ago, Slifer00 said:

I sowed around 15 different type of palm seeds 40 days ago, wondering if anyone could potentially ID the species this early on

At least for me, way too early to tell! 

[Johnny Palmseed]

Pics are too blurry and too close up. Also, it would be nearly impossible to identify them without a list of the ones that you collected. If you can take some new photos, add the list and keep track of the germination times, that will help greatly.

[TropicsEnjoyer]

At this stage the seed itself would be more useful for ID purposes.

[Slifer00]

10 hours ago, TropicsEnjoyer said:

At this stage the seed itself would be more useful for ID purposes.

Sorry , my 150 euro phone could not take any better ones close up

 

the second, more straight seedling has a brown hue on the side

 

[Slifer00]

14 hours ago, Johnny Palmseed said:

Pics are too blurry and too close up. Also, it would be nearly impossible to identify them without a list of the ones that you collected. If you can take some new photos, add the list and keep track of the germination times, that will help greatly.

In this pot I sowed both washy including hybrid, canary date, standard date, mexican blue fan, areca, foxtail, spindle, bottle, cretan date, royal cuban, jelly, queen, pygmy, european fan, butia, bismarck, sabal, cunninghamiana, silver date, fishtail, ETC, just to name a few.....

[Slifer00]

14 hours ago, Johnny Palmseed said:

Pics are too blurry and too close up. Also, it would be nearly impossible to identify them without a list of the ones that you collected. If you can take some new photos, add the list and keep track of the germination times, that will help greatly.

Will do in a weeks time, thanks. posted a rough list of seeds i collected above

[Slifer00]

4 minutes ago, Slifer00 said:

In this pot I sowed both washy including hybrid, canary date, standard date, mexican blue fan, areca, foxtail, spindle, bottle, cretan date, royal cuban, jelly, queen, pygmy, european fan, butia, bismarck, sabal, cunninghamiana, silver date, fishtail, ETC, just to name a few.....

oh yeah, and i also threw in some eucalyptus seeds in the mix but i doubt those seedlings are eucalyptus........

[Johnny Palmseed]

I have to be honest, it’s going to be very difficult to ID the seedlings due to the sheer number of varieties and the commingling in the same pot. As @TropicsEnjoyer said, seeing the seed would help. But you might damage the seedlings if you start trying to expose the seed so I wouldn’t recommend that. Best plan at this point is to monitor it and keep a photograph record. Eventually, the seedlings will become more apparent as to their variety. Unfortunately, your method of throwing everything in one pot will make it difficult to really know exactly what you have.

[PalmatierMeg]

49 minutes ago, Johnny Palmseed said:

I have to be honest, it’s going to be very difficult to ID the seedlings due to the sheer number of varieties and the commingling in the same pot. As @TropicsEnjoyer said, seeing the seed would help. But you might damage the seedlings if you start trying to expose the seed so I wouldn’t recommend that. Best plan at this point is to monitor it and keep a photograph record. Eventually, the seedlings will become more apparent as to their variety. Unfortunately, your method of throwing everything in one pot will make it difficult to really know exactly what you have.

Agree. I always pot up my seeds in separate pots. A lot easier than sorting them for hours and still getting half of them wrong.

[Slifer00]

On 2/22/2025 at 2:27 PM, Johnny Palmseed said:

I have to be honest, it’s going to be very difficult to ID the seedlings due to the sheer number of varieties and the commingling in the same pot. As @TropicsEnjoyer said, seeing the seed would help. But you might damage the seedlings if you start trying to expose the seed so I wouldn’t recommend that. Best plan at this point is to monitor it and keep a photograph record. Eventually, the seedlings will become more apparent as to their variety. Unfortunately, your method of throwing everything in one pot will make it difficult to really know exactly what you have.

It won't be long before I have a jungle of seedlings in that pot... day 38, the first seedling came up. By day 45, I can now count *13* seperate seedlings breaking through the surface. Another couple of weeks and I will have no choice but to seperate them all!

[Slifer00]

On 2/22/2025 at 2:27 PM, Johnny Palmseed said:

I have to be honest, it’s going to be very difficult to ID the seedlings due to the sheer number of varieties and the commingling in the same pot. As @TropicsEnjoyer said, seeing the seed would help. But you might damage the seedlings if you start trying to expose the seed so I wouldn’t recommend that. Best plan at this point is to monitor it and keep a photograph record. Eventually, the seedlings will become more apparent as to their variety. Unfortunately, your method of throwing everything in one pot will make it difficult to really know exactly what you have.

Are these any better now? 2 angles from the same, biggest seedling. It looks like washy to me

[TropicsEnjoyer]

still could be anything

[meridannight]

On 2/22/2025 at 2:22 PM, Slifer00 said:

In this pot I sowed both washy including hybrid, canary date, standard date, mexican blue fan, areca, foxtail, spindle, bottle, cretan date, royal cuban, jelly, queen, pygmy, european fan, butia, bismarck, sabal, cunninghamiana, silver date, fishtail, ETC, just to name a few.....

I can't say for others, but these common names say nothing to me. Species names would be needed. You'll only be doing yourself a favor by learning proper botanical names, as the best information out there for palms is by their species names. 

Seed images would probably narrow them down pretty well. Otherwise, too early to tell. And pictures are too close. You can take the photos a little farther out, it would be much better.

 

[Slifer00]

On 3/18/2025 at 6:28 AM, meridannight said:

I can't say for others, but these common names say nothing to me. Species names would be needed. You'll only be doing yourself a favor by learning proper botanical names, as the best information out there for palms is by their species names. 

Seed images would probably narrow them down pretty well. Otherwise, too early to tell. And pictures are too close. You can take the photos a little farther out, it would be much better.

 

Here is what the pot looks like now, 3 weeks later. 22 seedlings, 80% of which seem to be either dactilyfera/washingtonia/phoenix sylvestris. Moved it out to my sunroom now, hopefully the weather gets better

[FilthyFiveHole]

Still too early to tell. But out of the options..more than likely Washingtonias. They germinate really fast and have soft strap leaves. Phoenix strap leaves are stiff and have a "sharpish" point at the end of the leaf.

[DTS]

It it were Phoenix seeds, they would look something like this:

[TropicsEnjoyer]

I agree that these are not looking too much like phoenix since the leaves are so soft and curvy. Maybe it’s royals (roystonea). I have a royal and the first leaves are very long but soft. But still, nothing certain.