Harvesting a few alogoptrea arenaria seeds

[happypalms]

It’s a great feeling when you harvest some seeds from a palm in your garden, and this one is no exception. Another fantastic rare palm producing seeds for future generations. I have collected seeds from this palm before with good success in germinating them. Using the baggie method with spagnum moss at 30 degrees bottom heating. A great palm for dry parts of the garden. I also used an artist brush for a couple of days to help the insects out plus a rat trap to keep the rats out getting one back on the rats. They were cleaned in about 2 minutes with a jet wash super easy for a hard seed to clean. 

[Jonathan]

What a great idea Richard!

Keeping the seeds safe initially is sensible but leaving them in the cage for cleaning is genius. Nice work.

[happypalms]

1 hour ago, Jonathan said:

What a great idea Richard!

Keeping the seeds safe initially is sensible but leaving them in the cage for cleaning is genius. Nice work.

Why naturally sir!

[happypalms]

And sown asap  bottom heating baggie method 30 degrees Celsius. 

[gyuseppe]

Hello Richard, I had a dozen of these made with RPS seeds bought in 2007,
if not too troublesome for you, I would be interested in some seeds
thanks again

[happypalms]

10 hours ago, gyuseppe said:

Hello Richard, I had a dozen of these made with RPS seeds bought in 2007,
if not too troublesome for you, I would be interested in some seeds
thanks again

Yes a great palm. I  will keep them germinating and when I have a few other varieties to send to you I will put a couple in for you. They will be fine and still fresh if I get them from the germinating process to send to you. 

[Patrick]

13 hours ago, happypalms said:

And sown asap  bottom heating baggie method 30 degrees Celsius. 

Thank you for the germination advice. I have a younger one- probably 10 years old- that has flowered for a couple years now but never made any viable seed. All little skinny things like some of the "seeds" in your images a couple posts above. Perhaps I will pay more attention this year as I just noticed a new stalk emerging a few days back. It certainly is rewarding to collect your own seeds. Many years of waiting and nurturing and enjoyment for a little payoff....

[happypalms]

9 minutes ago, Patrick said:

Thank you for the germination advice. I have a younger one- probably 10 years old- that has flowered for a couple years now but never made any viable seed. All little skinny things like some of the "seeds" in your images a couple posts above. Perhaps I will pay more attention this year as I just noticed a new stalk emerging a few days back. It certainly is rewarding to collect your own seeds. Many years of waiting and nurturing and enjoyment for a little payoff....

The first couple of flowering years I got no seeds then I used an artist brush to help the insects out. And now I get a decent amount of seeds. The small ones are not pollinated. It’s even more fun when it’s a rare palm. 

[gyuseppe]

ok Richard very thanks

[Brian]

Great palm, one of my favorites for coastal conditions. They always look very nice. Good job on the seed collection!

[Brian]

4 hours ago, happypalms said:

The first couple of flowering years I got no seeds then I used an artist brush to help the insects out. And now I get a decent amount of seeds. The small ones are not pollinated. It’s even more fun when it’s a rare palm. 

Can you elaborate further on how you used the artist brush? Are you cross pollinating between plants?

Ive produced seed from my first and second generation alogoptrea arenaria plants however my third generation plants are not producing seed and I’m not sure why. 

[happypalms]

15 hours ago, Brian said:

Can you elaborate further on how you used the artist brush? Are you cross pollinating between plants?

Ive produced seed from my first and second generation alogoptrea arenaria plants however my third generation plants are not producing seed and I’m not sure why. 

Through observation when the flowers where ready I would just paint along the flower giving Mother Nature a hand. How long did your ones take to first flower my ones took around 15 years before flowering in a subtropical dry part of the garden.

[Brian]

36 minutes ago, happypalms said:

Through observation when the flowers where ready I would just paint along the flower giving Mother Nature a hand. How long did your ones take to first flower my ones took around 15 years before flowering in a subtropical dry part of the garden.

In this tropical climate, mine took about 5 years to flower and produce seed which was fortunate for me because the plant died not long after producing seed. Those seeds germinated and again about 5 years later they also produced seeds and about a year after that the palm died again! I was able to germinate the second generation seeds and currently have 4 growing of which three are producing flowers but no seeds. My worry is that they too will die before I get more seeds. I have no idea why they suddenly die off here. They have always looked really nice and then from one day to the next they start drying up at the growing point. 
Here are some photos of how they currently look,

[idontknowhatnametuse]

1 hour ago, Brian said:

In this tropical climate, mine took about 5 years to flower and produce seed which was fortunate for me because the plant died not long after producing seed. Those seeds germinated and again about 5 years later they also produced seeds and about a year after that the palm died again! I was able to germinate the second generation seeds and currently have 4 growing of which three are producing flowers but no seeds. My worry is that they too will die before I get more seeds. I have no idea why they suddenly die off here. They have always looked really nice and then from one day to the next they start drying up at the growing point. 
Here are some photos of how they currently look,

Do you sell the seeds or seedlings? I also live in Mexico. Would like to get some this summer.

[Brian]

1 hour ago, idontknowhatnametuse said:

Do you sell the seeds or seedlings? I also live in Mexico. Would like to get some this summer.

I don’t actively sell but if I can get these to produce viable seed I’ll reach out to you. 

[happypalms]

1 hour ago, idontknowhatnametuse said:

Do you sell the seeds or seedlings? I also live in Mexico. Would like to get some this summer.

Yes I can send a few seedlings to Mexico have sent before plants. A nice one in the picture strange they just up and die after flowering . Try the paintbrush method ext chance you get also keep the flowers dry could be the rain situation stopping pollination.

[happypalms]

5 minutes ago, Brian said:

I don’t actively sell but if I can get these to produce viable seed I’ll reach out to you. 

No worries in Australia I need a phytosanitry certificate to import. But have  another address that’s ok to send to thanks.