Dypsis perrieri

[Ntheastpalms]

Hello all

I have aquired two Dypsis perrieri seedlings & was wondering if anyone is growing this species?. If I could get some info on growth rates & how cold hardy they appear to be & if yours are being grown as an understory palm or full sun, also some photos would be great.

Thanks for any help

Cheers

Matt.

[Tyrone]

I wish I was. Do you have pics.

Best regards

Tyrone

[SubTropicRay]

I tried and failed several years ago.  It never looked great and seemed to be at its worst in our very warm summers.

[madagascarbob]

I had many seedlings and a huge one with 10 foot leaves I got from Lynn Miur years ago . None survived .

[Ntheastpalms]

hmmmmmm

That dose'nt sound too encouraging. I have only just got them & they are still small but appear to be happy in the green house.

I'll take some photos for you today Tyrone.

The info that is available suggests that, even though this Dypsis sp is potentially a large palm it should be grown in the shade.

Ray the summer struggle seems to suggest that this species may come from elevation perhaps??.

[Ntheastpalms]

Here a couple of photos

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[cfkingfish]

Matt-

Are you sure that is D. perrerii? That looks like a D. lastelliana type. Very few Dypsis come up pinnate on their first leaf, and I don't think D. perrerii is one of them. As far as I know they will not grow in low, humid areas like Florida.

[Ntheastpalms]

Hello Christian

As far as I know it was collected as the true species. The seed on this seedling is quite small at about 5mm in diameter & the seed is a lot smaller than the Dypsis lastelliana that I grew last year, the seed shape is very different to D lastelliana also.

[BS Man about Palms]

I'm with you Christian.  My Perrerii and most all I have seen retain Bifid leaves for some time.

BS

[Shon]

That matches the one I saw  at JM today Bill. The leafs were bifid but the new one was still pretty red.

[Tyrone]

The POM describes the seed for D perrerii much bigger than what you have there.  D leptocheilos has a similar looking seed, though your seed is around 5mm diameter which is much too small for leptocheilos. The pinnate first leaf is very much like lastelliana, and leptocheilos, so I think you have something quite different there, which is closely allied with lepto/lastelliana. Is it getting a mealy bug look on the petiole.

regards

Tyrone

[Ntheastpalms]

Not as yet Tyrone although I haven't had a close look, I tend to agree with you about the Lepto/Lastelli alliance.  

I'll keep you all  posted on the growth of these palms.

[MattyB]

Looks like what I've seen labled D. hovitrendrina.  The highland redneck maybe?  I don't know.

[bgl]

As with so many other Dypsis over the last 10-15 years, this one appears to be another mystery. Or at least some of them. I bought a number of 4 inch and 1G size palms in 1999 and 2000 under the Dypsis perrieri name. POM describes D. perrieri as a "massive, solitary palm", and the ones I have are not exactly massive (even though they're getting some size to them), and most of them are actually doubles. So, probably something else. The question is "what?"... Anyway, here's a photo of one of mine. This is a double.

[Jeff Searle]

Matt,

     I have my doubts also that this is really D. perrieri.(here we go again,these dang Dypsis specie's ) I grew many of these a few years back, and they all had entire bifid leaves from the beginning. This was an extreamly slowww growing palm, that never did grow good for me here in South Florida.

Bo,

    We saw these up in the Marojejy Mtns. and were quite impressive in size, but always a solitary palm. I can't tell from your picture, but did yours send up a sucker, or was it planted as a double maybe, or not sure on either?

Jeff

[Ntheastpalms]

Thanks for the photo Bo

G'Day Matt, I have two Dypsis sp "hovitrendrina" in my collection & they are very different to the two seedlings that I have pictured & verrry slow growimg I must say.

The two seedlings called D perrieri have a reddish tomentum all the way up the rachis where as the "hovitrendrina" are smooth with the white flecks on the underside of the rachis with no fur.

I think this will be a long term wait & see project     .

[bgl]

Jeff,

These were ALL solitary when I acquired them. Forgot to mention that the ones in full sun are the faster growing ones. I don't believe it's the full sun that makes them grow faster, though, but rather the rainfall. The ones under canopy don't get the same amount of rain, and as with so many other palms under similar circumstances, they are slower growing for that reason.

Bo-Göran

[DoomsDave]

Matt:

That doesn't look like the plants sold to me as D. perreri.

The ones I had needed LOTS of water (liked standing in it) shade, and hated dry winds.

None survived for me, though I operate a Death Camp.

Your plant looks like something completely different, though still a Dypsis.

dave

[Walter John]

(Ray, Tampa @ Dec. 05 2007,06:41)

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I tried and failed several years ago.  It never looked great and seemed to be at its worst in our very warm summers.

Ditto here. Don't want to try again, don't particularly like it anyway.