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I can only speak for the UK personally, so starting off in the Isle of Wight, England...

First photo showing two smallish CIDP's back in July 2009...

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Second photo showing August 2024, so 15 years later...

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Dry-summer Oceanic / Warm summer Med (Csb) - 9a

Average annual precipitation - 18.7 inches : Average annual sunshine hours - 1725

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Hmmm

Gonna have to riffle through my dank dusty archives…..

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Southeast London Washingtonia may have something to say about the growth rate of those Ventnor CIDP's...

Quite far outside of the main London UHI as well... 2008 vs 2024...

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2024....

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Dry-summer Oceanic / Warm summer Med (Csb) - 9a

Average annual precipitation - 18.7 inches : Average annual sunshine hours - 1725

Posted
17 minutes ago, UK_Palms said:

I can only speak for the UK personally, so starting off in the Isle of Wight, England...

First photo showing two smallish CIDP's back in July 2009...

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Second photo showing August 2024, so 15 years later...

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The first photo I can only hardly see foliage that even matches a CIDP on the right.  I see some fsn.palm that looks like s Trachycarpus and a non palm species with something behind it.  The left side has another Trachycarpus  with CIDP behind it.

Without seeing the full enchilada, it is more difficult to assess the trunk growth.  Many palms gain height faster once they gain some trunk.  The slowest growth is getting any exposed trunks.   

Chrysalidocarpus leptocheilos is speedy once it gains trunk here.  Ring space is a good indicator of speed on many species to compare in a given climate zone.  Our friends in Hawaii can share real speed.  Clinostigmas in Hawaii come to mind as speedy.  It is all climate specific. 

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33.0782 North -117.305 West  at 72 feet elevation

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Chamaedorea elatior. Germinated April 2018

17th October 2023 just beginning climbing phase. About 1-1-2m (3-4’ tall)

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Today (less than 17 months later). About 3-3.5m / 10-12’ tall. 

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Tim Brisbane

Patterson Lakes, bayside Melbourne, Australia

Rarely Frost

2005 Minimum: 2.6C,  Maximum: 44C

2005 Average: 17.2C, warmest on record.

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🫠 It won't be fair for Hawaii growers to add to this thread. 🌴

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Kim Cyr

Between the beach and the bays, Point Loma, San Diego, California USA
and on a 300 year-old lava flow, Pahoa, Hawaii, 1/4 mile from the 2018 flow
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Posted
7 hours ago, Kim said:

🫠 It won't be fair for Hawaii growers to add to this thread. 🌴

🌱🌴

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Posted
12 hours ago, UK_Palms said:

Ich kann nur persönlich für das Vereinigte Königreich sprechen, also beginnen wir auf der Isle of Wight in England …

Das erste Foto zeigt zwei kleinere CIDPs im Juli 2009 ...

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Das zweite Foto zeigt August 2024, also 15 Jahre später …

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yes, Ben. the gulf stream combined with mild winters with few frost days and absolute low temperatures that rarely really fall below -5 °C, constant mild temperatures outside the winter months including sufficient rainfall throughout the year are a good growth promoter even without the urban heat island effect like London, you can definitely say that this is impressive, at least in our opinion here on the small swabian sea.

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This is my candidate - not so much in growth speed alone but because it's a typically slow palm.  Butia odorata planted as a 7-gal in 2020 showing the original container.  In less than 5 years its trunk girth and overall height have more than doubled.  First pic in 2024:IMG_20240818_164950083_HDR.thumb.jpg.0f44e2e5e72ba2cd9bfe68de8cc9bab0.jpg

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Jon Sunder

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This mule is still small and unimpressive, but the 11-month transformation from a dried up seedling to what it is today amazes me. 

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10 minutes ago, 5am said:

This mule is still small and unimpressive, but the 11-month transformation from a dried up seedling to what it is today amazes me. 

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Once it's in the ground buckle your seatbelt for the blast off!

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Jon Sunder

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While not crazy nor my best growers here are a couple royals. 

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