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Queen palm in usda Zone 8a - our little queen

Mazat

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we became it at the end of october 2024. described as a syagrus romanzoffiana santa catarina.

first we placed it in the window in the living room with lots of light and 

sun and watered it every 6 days. As

substrate we took palm soil.

It just didn't grow until the end of January.

then Sabine simply planted it in the raised bed in the balcony, she got the palm as a present.

and since then it has grown.

we had also wrapped it with fleece and then removed everything yesterday 

how does it look from your point of view?

I was already despairing a bit because the little one just didn't grow . .

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It looks fine to me. They are very slow as seedlings . The strap leaves will get large for at least two years before starting to form more pinnate fronds. This one popped up almost two years ago next to its parent. Harryimage.thumb.jpg.2863fde31c00e432c5756a0d94894105.jpg

In a temperate climate they can grow quickly once they move beyond “strap leaf “ stage. I have quite a few popping up in the yard and in containers.

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  On 3/23/2025 at 12:37 AM, Harry’s Palms said:

It looks fine to me. They are very slow as seedlings . The strap leaves will get large for at least two years before starting to form more pinnate fronds. This one popped up almost two years ago next to its parent. Harryimage.thumb.jpg.2863fde31c00e432c5756a0d94894105.jpg

In a temperate climate they can grow quickly once they move beyond “strap leaf “ stage. I have quite a few popping up in the yard and in containers.

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Many thanks Harry for your explanation and information, from both of us.

we are very excited to see how she continues to thrive ...

Best regards 

Tom and Sabine

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  On 3/23/2025 at 7:14 PM, gyuseppe said:

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your queens are beautiful.

How old are they? They also look huge, over 25 ft/ 7,5m easily my estimate!?

What was the lowest temperature they experienced? And how did they react?

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  On 3/23/2025 at 12:37 AM, Harry’s Palms said:

It looks fine to me. They are very slow as seedlings . The strap leaves will get large for at least two years before starting to form more pinnate fronds. This one popped up almost two years ago next to its parent. Harryimage.thumb.jpg.2863fde31c00e432c5756a0d94894105.jpg

In a temperate climate they can grow quickly once they move beyond “strap leaf “ stage. I have quite a few popping up in the yard and in containers.

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Harry, how tall and old is the mother ?

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  On 3/24/2025 at 10:42 AM, Mazat said:

your queens are beautiful.

How old are they? They also look huge, over 25 ft/ 7,5m easily my estimate!?

What was the lowest temperature they experienced? And how did they react?

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Hello Mazat

they resisted -5.6 degrees celsius in January 2017, no signs of suffering, temperatures never seen, this year we never went below zero,
they are very tall, the fo made from seed in the 80s

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  On 3/24/2025 at 10:43 AM, Mazat said:

Harry, how tall and old is the mother ?

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The parent is at least 30’ tall. I planted a bunch of them over 25 years ago for canopy . I have a few that grew much faster that others even though they were all the same size when planted. HarryIMG_4133.thumb.jpeg.4cfe1c471baada64fca471d115bb46ea.jpeg

They easily out paced almost anything else I planted . This is right after tree trimming just before fall last year. To the right is a Venezuelan Royal that is marginal for growing in my climate.IMG_4165.thumb.jpeg.6bd54c832b28018f6e6f89fb4793fea0.jpeg

This Caryota Urens was the only palm that kept up with the Syagrus R.

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  On 3/24/2025 at 11:48 AM, gyuseppe said:

Hallo Mazat

Sie haben im Januar 2017 -5,6 Grad Celsius überstanden, keine Anzeichen von Leiden, nie gesehene Temperaturen, dieses Jahr sind wir nie unter Null gegangen,
sie sind sehr groß, die Fo aus Samen in den 80er Jahren

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Thank you Gyuseppe for your explanations and comments.

That is amazing and good that it survived -5.6 degrees Celsius without damage.

Yes, it is huge and already so old, wow.

She has had two brief periods of -1.5 degrees Celsius and -2 degrees Celsius here on the balcony in February and a few times around 0 degrees Celsius at night during the day, always between 5-20 degrees Celsius.

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My coldest temps here are 38f or 3.3c. I consider my climate warm temperate with no frost on my particular lot . One city block down a steep hill below me there is frost occasionally. It is heaven for a lot of palms! Harry

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  On 3/24/2025 at 1:02 PM, Harry’s Palms said:

Die Elternpflanze ist mindestens 9 Meter hoch. Ich habe vor über 25 Jahren einige davon als Baumkronen gegründet. Einige sind viel schneller gewachsen als andere, obwohl sie bei den Pflanzen alle gleich groß waren. HarryIMG_4133.thumb.jpeg.4cfe1c471baada64fca471d115bb46ea.jpeg

Sie haben fast alles andere, was ich gefunden habe, mühelos übertroffen. Das Bild entstand kurz nach dem Baumschnitt im Herbst letzten Jahres. Rechts ist eine venezolanische Königspflanze zu sehen, die in meinem Klima nur bedingt wächst.IMG_4165.thumb.jpeg.6bd54c832b28018f6e6f89fb4793fea0.jpeg

Diese Caryota Urens war die einzige Palme, die mit Syagrus R. mithalten konnte.

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vielen Dank, Harry, für deine Erklärungen und Informationen. Sie ist wirklich wunderschön und beeindruckend, auch deine Caryota urens.

Ihr Klima hat und hatte selten Frosttage?

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  On 3/24/2025 at 1:46 PM, Harry’s Palms said:

Meine kältesten Temperaturen hier liegen bei 3,3 °C. Ich betrachte mein Klima als warm-gemäßigt, ohne Frost auf meinem Grundstück. Einen Häuserblock weiter unten, einen steilen Hügel hinunter, gibt es gelegentlich Frost. Es ist ein Paradies für viele Palmen! Harry

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Great 🤗 

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  On 3/24/2025 at 1:46 PM, Harry’s Palms said:

Meine kältesten Temperaturen hier liegen bei 3,3 °C. Ich betrachte mein Klima als warm-gemäßigt, ohne Frost auf meinem Grundstück. Einen Häuserblock weiter unten, einen steilen Hügel hinunter, gibt es gelegentlich Frost. Es ist ein Paradies für viele Palmen! Harry

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we had and have around 53 frostdays on average the last 30 years if I do the math for the community garden below.

the daytime temperatures are usually above 0, downstairs often 5 - 15 degrees Celsius so well in the plus range in contrast to the surroundings usually 3 degrees Celsius and more colder than us.We are happy about that 

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  On 3/24/2025 at 1:46 PM, Harry’s Palms said:

My coldest temps here are 38f or 3.3c. I consider my climate warm temperate with no frost on my particular lot . One city block down a steep hill below me there is frost occasionally. It is heaven for a lot of palms! Harry

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Great 🤗 

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