Id Sabal palmetto?

[scantini]

I'm not sure about. 

Thanks a lot who reply!

 

[Harry’s Palms]

I am not very experienced with Sabal . I was given a seedling 25 years ago by a collector who wasn’t sure if it was Palmetto or another variety . When I posted a pic of it I was told it is most likely Sabal Riverside due to the large diameter trunk. Yours appears to be the smaller diameter that is like the Palmetto . Harry

[Chester B]

Those seeds look too big to be palmetto. You should measure them and from there a better ID can be put forth. 

[awkonradi]

Could it be Sabal mauritiiformis?  Would that be consistent with the large fruit?  Is the character of the fronds consistent with mauritiiformis?  I think it would be good to see pictures of the entire palm.

[Fusca]

I agree with @Chester B regarding the fruit size.  @awkonradi, the seeds from the palm labeled as Sabal mauritiiformis are similar in size to palmetto (fruits 0.3-0.4" diameter according to Palmpedia).  Here's some different Sabal seeds and sizes I've posted previously.  Sabal miamiensis are roughly the same size as palmetto.  To me the size of the seeds in the original poster's palm is more like the size of domingensis, mexicana or Riverside.

[Phoenikakias]

How many orders of inflorescence branching does it have? Rachis (main axis) of the inflorescence does not count in to the number of branches. Show us please second order. Truth is that  the big tropical Sabal spp in Europe (causiarum, domingensis, maritima) do not bloom yet this time (season) of the year, but rather during high summer.  Hastula margins in one leaf look quite involute.  We have to know exact size of  ripe seeds and fruit, generally reproductive organs of Sabal are the most important features for identification, provided that the specimen to be identified is not a hybrid, which in many cases is sadly true.

[pietropuccio]

The information requested by Phoenikakias are important for the exact identification, however from what we see the most likely hypothesis is that it is a Sabal bermudana

[Mazat]

  On 3/30/2025 at 12:16 PM, scantini said:

I'm not sure about. 

Thanks a lot who reply!

 

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Beautiful 

[Phoenikakias]

  On 3/31/2025 at 9:20 AM, pietropuccio said:

The information requested by Phoenikakias are important for the exact identification, however from what we see the most likely hypothesis is that it is a Sabal bermudana

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One has to know what kind of information he should ask for. This can be possible, only if he begins with a plausible suspicion. It is sort of thought circle, but able are only people deeply initiated in to the palmy universe.

[scantini]

Sorry for the delay. 

The size of the seeds are between 13 and 15 mm. 

It was the bigger seed's size that I see in the Sabal genus that I pick until this day.

I found this Palm near to the South Tenerife Airport.

Unluckly I just cleaning all fruits and I dont know the size of them.

[Phoenikakias]

  On 4/3/2025 at 6:48 AM, scantini said:

Sorry for the delay. 

The size of the seeds are between 13 and 15 mm. 

It was the bigger seed's size that I see in the Sabal genus that I pick until this day.

I found this Palm near to the South Tenerife Airport.

Unluckly I just cleaning all fruits and I dont know the size of them.

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If you refer to the seeds in the strict sense (not the whole fruit), only rosei and pumos may have so large seeds. But both spp have inflorescence equal in length to the one  of  the fronds. In your posted pictures I can see a rather short inflorescence about the length of the petiole. Besides both pumos and rosei have deep segments about 2/3 and 3/4 to the total length of the leaf blade. Again in your posted pictures leaf blade does not look so deeply divided.