Pritchardia vuylstekeana

[Peter]

Does anyone have any info on this Pritchardia?  Is it a real name?  I have one growing in South Florida that is doing well; I've also heard they have some cold hardiness and might do ok in Socal?  Anyone?

Here's my 3 yr. old in Hollywood, Florida:

[chris.oz]

According to Hodel  the existence of a different species with this name is in doubt.

Whatever your palm is,  it looks really beautiful and your conditions and cultural practices seem to suit it.

[Peter]

I thought I'd bump this thread to see if there is any more info on this Pritchardia. I've planted a small one out here in Inland Socal as an experiment, and so far, so good this winter. It doesn't look great, but not that bad either. Fingers crossed it makes it thru the next 2 months. If so, and if it is a non-Hawaiian Pritchardia, that would be exciting for us here in Socal.

[MattyB]

Peter can you show us some close ups of the petioles and undersides of the leaves?

[LJG]

Peter, Geoff put up something a few years ago on DGs:

http://davesgarden.com/guides/pf/go/68403/

Seems he was growing these as seedlings. Not sure how his are doing now. Not sure why, but looking at yours you can just tell it is not a Hawaiian species. Know what I mean?

[Eric in Orlando]

The one we tried here was killed in Dec. 2000 after a night at 27F and one night at 28F. The same freeze only caused minor/moderate damage on several Hawaiian Pritchardia species.

[Peter]

Unfortunately I don't have any photos of the petioles and leaf undersides on the plant shown above which is growing at my rental property in Florida.

My little guy here in Socal is still quite small, really too small to have planted out but I did it anyway. I got it from Leon, who thinks he got the seed from Inga Hoffman. I think he has one or two more hiding somewhere in his nursery. Here's mine from this morning, looking worse for wear but not too bad:

[Jerry@TreeZoo]

There is one about the same size as Peter's in the Deerfield Arboretum. The red palm spider mites love it. It is living on borrowed time as we have lost several other palms to LY. Got it from Steve Stern.

Jerry

[JasonD]

If I recall correctly from Don Hodel's article, this species is in some doubt. It had been reported from Makatea Island, in the Tuamotu Archipelago in French Polynesia, but the Hodel determined that the species there is Pritchardia mitiaroana. The plant labeled P. vuylstekeara in the Foster Botanical Garden in Honolulu is very tall and and old, but looks pretty much like a Pritchardia pacifica (from 40+ feet below the crown!).

[Mandrew968]

Anyone else know of Pritchardia vuylstekeara? I can find no mention of it in Hodel's Pritchardia book...

[quaman58]

Anyone else know of Pritchardia vuylstekeara? I can find no mention of it in Hodel's Pritchardia book...

Prior to Hodel's book being published, he wrote a review on Pritchardia in an IPS journal, 2007 I think. At that time he listed several species, including vuylstekeara as "doubtful" or "unconfirmed". Some of the species listed were rolled into another based the original plant material samples; others were lacking in sufficient description & therefore discarded as a valid species. Jason is correct with his recollection regarding this one; it may just be mitiaroana. So based on the fact that it's not his Hodel's current book, his opinion hasn't changed.

[Mauna Kea Cloudforest]

Are there any follow up pictures of any of the above growing now, or are they all dead?

[edric]

There is some info on the links here, I'm not sure how much, Ed

http://www.palmpedia.net/wiki/Pritchardia_vuylstekeana

[Manolitus]

Hello everyone. Haven't posted in a LONG while. So leave it to Pritchardia to draaaaaag me back in ( cue Pacino Godfather accent ).

Here's what I got: Two Vuylstekeanas. The trunk on these is what in my opinion makes them look a little different than Pacifica for example. The trunk is thicker and its lighter in color and when you knock on it, it sounds hallow, although may mean nothing.

Thoughts ? How about the inflorescence ?

[Zeeth]

Hello everyone. Haven't posted in a LONG while. So leave it to Pritchardia to draaaaaag me back in ( cue Pacino Godfather accent ).

Here's what I got: Two Vuylstekeanas. The trunk on these is what in my opinion makes them look a little different than Pacifica for example. The trunk is thicker and its lighter in color and when you knock on it, it sounds hallow, although may mean nothing.

Thoughts ? How about the inflorescence ?

P. Vuylstekeana1.JPGP. Vuylstekeana2.JPGP. Vuylstekeana 3.JPG

That sounds like how Hodel describes P. mitiaroana. Do you note any differences from that species?

[Manolitus]

Hello everyone. Haven't posted in a LONG while. So leave it to Pritchardia to draaaaaag me back in ( cue Pacino Godfather accent ).

Here's what I got: Two Vuylstekeanas. The trunk on these is what in my opinion makes them look a little different than Pacifica for example. The trunk is thicker and its lighter in color and when you knock on it, it sounds hallow, although may mean nothing.

Thoughts ? How about the inflorescence ?

P. Vuylstekeana1.JPGP. Vuylstekeana2.JPGP. Vuylstekeana 3.JPG

That sounds like how Hodel describes P. mitiaroana. Do you note any differences from that species?

That is what I have heard as well. As luck would have it I also have P. Mitiaroana which I bought from trusted source !!! So when that one gets bigger I will certainly be able to compare with the one's ( there are two ) in the pictures. Interestingly, notice that one is MUCH bigger than the other. Would you believe that the smaller one has been in the ground as long as as it took the other one to get that size ???? Any explanations out there ??

Manny

[Zeeth]

Hello everyone. Haven't posted in a LONG while. So leave it to Pritchardia to draaaaaag me back in ( cue Pacino Godfather accent ).

Here's what I got: Two Vuylstekeanas. The trunk on these is what in my opinion makes them look a little different than Pacifica for example. The trunk is thicker and its lighter in color and when you knock on it, it sounds hallow, although may mean nothing.

Thoughts ? How about the inflorescence ?

P. Vuylstekeana1.JPGP. Vuylstekeana2.JPGP. Vuylstekeana 3.JPG

That sounds like how Hodel describes P. mitiaroana. Do you note any differences from that species?

That is what I have heard as well. As luck would have it I also have P. Mitiaroana which I bought from trusted source !!! So when that one gets bigger I will certainly be able to compare with the one's ( there are two ) in the pictures. Interestingly, notice that one is MUCH bigger than the other. Would you believe that the smaller one has been in the ground as long as as it took the other one to get that size ???? Any explanations out there ??

Manny

That's good that you have both!

The small one looks more shaded... other than that it could just be individual genetics.

[Mandrew968]

Manny, good to hear from you. Based on your pictures of the trunk, I would say this palm is indeed mitiaroana.

[Moose]

On ‎5‎/‎20‎/‎2014‎ ‎8‎:‎10‎:‎50‎, Manolitus said:

Hello everyone. Haven't posted in a LONG while. So leave it to Pritchardia to draaaaaag me back in ( cue Pacino Godfather accent ).

 

Here's what I got: Two Vuylstekeanas. The trunk on these is what in my opinion makes them look a little different than Pacifica for example. The trunk is thicker and its lighter in color and when you knock on it, it sounds hallow, although may mean nothing.

 

Thoughts ? How about the inflorescence ?

 

Hmmmmmm

[Frond-friend42]

I'm bothered by this P.  vuylstekeana conundrum. Ho'omaluhia garden on Oahu has some. It looks like other Hawaiians but is it? Those don't look like mtitiaroana to me. If anything, the look more like P. hillebrandii.  I'm interesting to know what others think and whether the Ho'omaluhia ones are actually this poorly described vuylstekeana species or something else.