Dypsis malcomberi

[jdapalms]

This is what my Dypsis malcomberi are starting to look like.

[Urban Rainforest]

Jerry, That is one awesome palm!!! Do you have any of these for sale in Hawaii? A couple months ago I ordered 100 seed of this palm and they are starting to germinate. I can't wait to see trunk on those.

Steve

[Gtlevine]

I saw this palm down in south Madagascar but I was too far away to get a good look or photo, but looking through my zoom lens, it looked similar to Dypsis Mananjarensis.

Gary

[LJG]

Jerry, did this have a red emerging spear with mealy bug markings when small?

[Matt in SD]

Jerry,

Is this from the "malcomberi" seed batch that was starting to look like 'orange crush'?  Or is this a different batch?

I dont' know what that is, but it sure doesn't look like the description of D malcomberi, which is supposed to have grouped leaflets like manajarensis.  It's cool though.

Matt

[CarloSpain]

Jerry, very beautiful palm, how old is the palm of the photo, is slowly growing?

I bought some D. malcomberi from RPS, with a very good germination, but these seeds are identical D. 'Orange crush':

[Gtlevine]

(Matt in SD @ Jan. 30 2008,01:57)

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Jerry,

Is this from the "malcomberi" seed batch that was starting to look like 'orange crush'?  Or is this a different batch?

I dont' know what that is, but it sure doesn't look like the description of D malcomberi, which is supposed to have grouped leaflets like manajarensis.  It's cool though.

Matt

Matt you have said basically what I have seen in Madagascar, that the true Malcomberii looks like Mananjarensis and Jerry's palm looks like something different.

Gary

[JD in the OC]

We have 3 gallon Malcomberi's available, 3-4 leaves, 8-10 inches tall, already showing some mealy bug speckling and pinkish colors.  (Camera is broke right now)

They seem different than D. mananjarensis I got from Ron Lawyer.

email me if interested: seabreezepalms@gmail.com

JD

[jdapalms]

This palm is from a batch of seed I imported about 8 years ago. The seed came to me as Dypsis malcomberi. They have been very slow growing the largest ones I have are those pictured in Hawaii. I also have these at my nursery in Calif. and as seedlings they look identical to "Orange Crush" The plants in Calif. still look like "Orange Crush". It’s anyone’s guess as to what they are. I'm going to keep the name malcomberi on this batch until I know more.

Steve, I think I have some of these in containers in Hawaii. I will look around when I get back.

Carlo, the seedlings in your picture looks like the seed is larger than the Dypsis Orange Crush; Orange Crush is a small seed as was the seed to my Dypsis malcomberi.

Len, The plant that you are referring to that has the mealy markings on the petiole is probably Dypsis mananjarensis. I have a new batch of D. malcomberi seedlings sprouting at this time, also small seed. It will be interesting to see what these turn into.

Jerry

[Matt in SD]

Jerry,

I won't say "I told you so"...oh wait I just did     I have kept mine labeled as 'malcomberi' because I was pretty convinced it was not the same as 'orange crush'.  I'm stoked it's really looking different, since I already have an orange crush planted.

Matt

[Jeff Searle]

Jerry,

     I have 3 plants that I probably got in the same time and my largest one(smaller then yours in the pic.) looks identical to yours and came in as D. malcomberi as well. I'm sure it's the same palm. I'll try to get a pic. soon and compare.

Jeff

[Gtlevine]

I have not seen the seed of Malcomberii, but I bet it is that tiny seed similar to Manajarensis. All the giant palms like Prestoniana, Robusta, etc..., seem to have this tiny seed.

Gary

[LJG]

(jdapalms @ Jan. 30 2008,08:38)

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Len, The plant that you are referring to that has the mealy markings on the petiole is probably Dypsis mananjarensis. I have a new batch of D. malcomberi seedlings sprouting at this time, also small seed. It will be interesting to see what these turn into.

Jerry, the reason I asked is because I have been lucky enough to acquire 'possibly' a true D. malcomberi. It is not here yet, but will be soon.

The reason I ask is that the true species has a red emerging spear with mealy bug pattern. This is how you can tell it is the real deal. This was told to me from the seller and from someone in Australia that confirmed it. Here is a pic of what I understand to be the true form at seedling size (when I get home I will post my pic):

http://www.pacsoa.org.au/palms/Dypsis/malcomberi.html

I have seen two palms that were sold as malcomberi - the one I am getting will be the third. One looks like Orange Crush as stated and the other I got from Jeff Searle that he and I believe to be just a variation of Madagascariensis. In reading about the true form and how ornamental a palm it is, it is important for me to find it for my collection. And from what I have been told, it is actually a pretty good grower. Not slow like Mananjarensis.

[MattyB]

What are the ones the Jungle Music has?  They look just like the one pictured on PACSOA, which Justin posted so maybe he got it from Jungle Music.  Some of the ones at Jungle Music have very red or purple petioles w/ specks all over them.  Mine is brown though because it's dead.

[LJG]

Matt, Dean Ouer said Phil has some too. I have not seen them but if they are the real deal I will buy a few.

[Matt in SD]

I'm pretty sure the ones at Jungle Music are the real deal.  Definitely same as the ones Justen posted on PACSOA.

The only weird thing to me is that I have a malcomberi and a mananjarensis from Jungle Music and the malcomberi has more prominent "mealy bug" markings than the mananjarensis.  Both are growing pretty well though.

Matt

[MattyB]

Well my Chamaedorea alternans is closer to the parlor than my C. elegans but that still dosen't change the fact that a mother with a broken hip can still make a great snake face sandwhich.

[LJG]

(MattyB @ Jan. 30 2008,15:25)

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Well my Chamaedorea alternans is closer to the parlor than my C. elegans but that still dosen't change the fact that a mother with a broken hip can still make a great snake face sandwhich.

I was going ot say the same thing Matt. Only minus the mother and snake sandwich part.

Thanks Matt in SD. I will be off to JM as I think this plant will be a real winner I want a few.

[LJG]

Here are the pics of a plant I am getting.

another shot

[Matt in SD]

(LJG @ Jan. 30 2008,19:22)

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(MattyB @ Jan. 30 2008,15:25)

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Well my Chamaedorea alternans is closer to the parlor than my C. elegans but that still dosen't change the fact that a mother with a broken hip can still make a great snake face sandwhich.

I was going ot say the same thing Matt. Only minus the mother and snake sandwich part.

Thanks Matt in SD. I will be off to JM as I think this plant will be a real winner I want a few.

I had no idea what Matty was talking about and then Len seemed to not only understand, but was going to "say the same thing"??!!  Is anybody totally clueless here?

Matt

[bgl]

Matt,

It's a secret language. I understand you have to be invited, and they are VERY picky!

Bo-Göran

[BS Man about Palms]

Some of you read the other message, its gone now.

[Shon]

BS man what are talking about and who are you talking to? ???

[BS Man about Palms]

(Shon @ Jan. 30 2008,19:29)

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BS man what are talking about and who are you talking to? ???

Spot it in the 007 thread..

[BS Man about Palms]

(LJG @ Jan. 30 2008,14:03)

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(jdapalms @ Jan. 30 2008,08:38)

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Len, The plant that you are referring to that has the mealy markings on the petiole is probably Dypsis mananjarensis. I have a new batch of D. malcomberi seedlings sprouting at this time, also small seed. It will be interesting to see what these turn into.

Jerry, the reason I asked is because I have been lucky enough to acquire 'possibly' a true D. malcomberi. It is not here yet, but will be soon.

The reason I ask is that the true species has a red emerging spear with mealy bug pattern. This is how you can tell it is the real deal. This was told to me from the seller and from someone in Australia that confirmed it. Here is a pic of what I understand to be the true form at seedling size (when I get home I will post my pic):

http://www.pacsoa.org.au/palms/Dypsis/malcomberi.html

I have seen two palms that were sold as malcomberi - the one I am getting will be the third. One looks like Orange Crush as stated and the other I got from Jeff Searle that he and I believe to be just a variation of Madagascariensis. In reading about the true form and how ornamental a palm it is, it is important for me to find it for my collection. And from what I have been told, it is actually a pretty good grower. Not slow like Mananjarensis.

You mean it should look like this ?  

[Jeff Searle]

Boy......is this spiraling out of control, and FAST.

Jeff

[Gtlevine]

Bill, your palm may be the true form, you should know in a year or so. Take a look at Lens post, that is a true Malcolmberii.

Gary

[Jeff Searle]

Also, I have said it before and I'll say it again. I really think some of these big palms can have two different leaf arrangements.

Jeff

[bgl]

OK, here's a new bold concept: a MYSTERY Dypsis!  

I bought these 3 palms from Floribunda in Jan. 2005 as Dypsis malcomberi. They were in 4 inch pots. This is what they look like today after putting on some nice growth these past 3 years. Seems to be obvious that they are NOT D. malcomberi. So, the question is: what are they?? ???

[BS Man about Palms]

Those are the Lowes Teddy Bears!!!!!!  

[Gtlevine]

I'm with Bill, Lowes Teddy Bear.

Actually, I remember when I was developing my Dypsis sickness and went to Jerry Andersens for the first time and he had that palm in a 15 gallon for a measly $400.00. I went back and forth and finally decided it was too much. It was one of the palms that I wish I snagged, but $400.00 back five or six years ago seemed excessive. Anyway, it is very beautiful and I will be interested in seeing it as it matures.

Gary

[Tyrone]

(bgl @ Jan. 31 2008,21:41)

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OK, here's a new bold concept: a MYSTERY Dypsis!  

I bought these 3 palms from Floribunda in Jan. 2005 as Dypsis malcomberi. They were in 4 inch pots. This is what they look like today after putting on some nice growth these past 3 years. Seems to be obvious that they are NOT D. malcomberi. So, the question is: what are they?? ???

Bo, Is that Dypsis sp Mayotte. Are they starting to sucker like a pembana lanceolata???

regards

Tyrone

[Jeff Searle]

(bgl @ Jan. 31 2008,21:41)

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OK, here's a new bold concept: a MYSTERY Dypsis!  

I bought these 3 palms from Floribunda in Jan. 2005 as Dypsis malcomberi. They were in 4 inch pots. This is what they look like today after putting on some nice growth these past 3 years. Seems to be obvious that they are NOT D. malcomberi. So, the question is: what are they?? ???

From pictures, it can be a little tricky. But they remind alot of Neonicholsonia watsonii, with all the red on the bottom.

Jeff

[bgl]

Tyrone,

I have a handful of Dypsis sp. Mayotte in the ground and none of them have this bright color on the base. The 3 palms above are not suckering - at least not yet.

Jeff,

Interesting possibility! Leaf arrangement seems to be very very close. However, I have a few Neonicholsonias in the ground and they have been VERY slow (which is confirmed in An Encyclopedia of Cultivated Palms), while the 3 palms above have been reasonably fast.

Bo-Göran

[Jeff Searle]

Jerry,

    Here is my 3 plants that are probably about the same age and that came in under D. malcomberi. What do you think?

Jeff

[Jeff Searle]

Another...

[Jeff Searle]

Last one...

[bgl]

It doesn't look like the ones Jeff Marcus showed me the other week, that he's convinced are the true D. malcomberi. Jeff's look exactly like Len's in post 19 and Bill's in post 25.

[JD in the OC]

Here's mine.  Looks like Len's

[BS Man about Palms]

Looks a bit stretched from too much shade, Jeff