Brahea dulcis (blue form) and Sabal uresana

[buffy]

Does anybody have knowledge about these Mexican natives. Sabal uresana looks very unique in how the palmate leaf tips hang limp. The PACSOA site shows this as cold hardy to Zone 8a (I don't know how they determined this). Brahea dulcis can be found in a blue form and has larger and rounder leaves than armata. These look like interesting possibilities.

Sabal uresana

Brahea dulcis

[merrill]

Hi, Buffy:

Several S. uresana from different sources have had more rigid fronds than the specimen you show.  It frequently is difficult to determine the characteristics that are appropriate.  OTOH, I ran a survey in the recent past and couldn't find anyone ANYWHERE experiencing cold damage to S. uresana!  This would seem to support the PACSOA site.

Best Wishes, merrill

[iwan]

Ooooh, I want!!!  It will probably be decades before my 1g uresana is that big.

[_Keith]

(iwan @ Feb. 05 2008,21:27)

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Ooooh, I want!!!

Could not have said it better myself.  

Tad, you got any of these?

I might have to expedite my trip down there to Mexico, err, South Texas.

[Palmtrader]

I have been growing Sabal uresana here in Spain for three years and despite being very slow thay have shown considerable resistance to cold even as young plants.

Brahea dulcis is a beauty. Very nice pics.

[Tad]

yes

[Matt N- Dallas]

Buffy,

I am growing the green and silver form of s. uresana here in Dallas.  Both grow fine except the silver form is slooow.  I don't know about b. dulcis, but b. armata, b. moorei and b. clara have grown well for me.

[buffy]

Matt: Where did you get your seeds from?

[AlexnAtlanta]

I am growing Sabal Uresana in Atlanta, Georgia (zone 8a) and I never protect it during the winter.  Mine has a sky blue color to the fronds and is a fairly slow grower but it's picking up some speed after being in the ground now for about 4 years.  As to Braheas, I grow Armata and Decumbens and Moorei here in Atlanta and both seem to do well, but I made sure to plant them in very sandy, limey soil because I do not believe they would like our native heavy clay soils.

[Zac in NC]

Yeah, I agree with what Merrill said about uresana. I've seen them in the wild in Sonora, both the coastal green form and the inland blue form. Do a search for in in the Travelogues section and I have pics of them, plus I think they have the pics on PASCOA from that trip of those, Washingtonia robusta and Brahea elegans and nitida.

Zac

[buffy]

(AlexnAtlanta @ Feb. 12 2008,16:48)

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I am growing Sabal Uresana in Atlanta, Georgia (zone 8a) and I never protect it during the winter.  Mine has a sky blue color to the fronds and is a fairly slow grower but it's picking up some speed after being in the ground now for about 4 years.  As to Braheas, I grow Armata and Decumbens and Moorei here in Atlanta and both seem to do well, but I made sure to plant them in very sandy, limey soil because I do not believe they would like our native heavy clay soils.

I lived in Sm-inings (Smyrna/Vinings) until June of 2004. I don't remember it being Zone 8a by any description. I remember getting below 10 F several times during that period. Sounds like its been a little warmer lately. Sounds like S. uresana could be a winner around here.

[fanaw]

hello every body,

i would like to know what is the temperature to germinate brahea dulcis seeds??

sorry for my english but i'm french

[Ken Johnson]

Buff,

Where does that Sabal in your pic come from. It sure has droopy leaves, never seen one like that. Looks like it just went through a hurricane!